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A liberal is one who has little or no faith in the American people.

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A liberal is one who has little or no faith in liberty.



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This is not a definition.

It's an opinion.

Opinions are less reliable than facts.

Twenty opinions are even less reliable than one fact.

Try again. A liberal is __________________________

Ed in East Texas wrote: A liberal is one who has little or no faith in the American people.



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Robert wrote: A liberal is one who has little or no faith in liberty.

If you say so, it must be true.



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A liberal is a poor man's socialist.



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hydrogen hydroxide wrote: Robert wrote: A liberal is one who has little or no faith in liberty.

If you say so, it must be true.

Ding Ding Ding , we have a winner.
 

Now you got it.  :smile:

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A liberal looks to government as the solution to most problems. He has no faith that the American people are capable of taking care of themselves and their family and their country. 

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Cant say it any better myself

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Ed in East Texas wrote: A liberal looks to government as the solution to most problems. He has no faith that the American people are capable of taking care of themselves and their family and their country.

Since it's the people who choose the government, it's inconsistent to say that the same people have no faith in those. Or are you suggesting that it's the liberals who appoint the government?

Pleez. Of course, you might be right. I'm not sure McCain has much faith in himself.



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A Liberal is the most caring and giving person in the world... with other peoples' money and assets!!!



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hydrogen hydroxide wrote: Ed in East Texas wrote: A liberal looks to government as the solution to most problems. He has no faith that the American people are capable of taking care of themselves and their family and their country.

Since it's the people who choose the government, it's inconsistent to say that the same people have no faith in those. Or are you suggesting that it's the liberals who appoint the government?

Pleez. Of course, you might be right. I'm not sure McCain has much faith in himself.

Of course, we're a republic, people don't really choose the government, they choose the people who run the government. Those elected persons who run the government and thus appoint those bureaucrats who "assist" in running the government are the ones with power to manage our lives. It's the "frog in boiling water scenario" where the people who choose aren't aware of the growth of government and its intrusion into our individual liberties until at such time of an occurrence that changes the mind-set of the average person.

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Idiot Quote of the Century


 'My friends, we live in the greatest


nation in the history of the world.


I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.'


 - Barack Obama



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Our President is really big on Liberty.  He wants to libertize the whole wide world.

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hydrogen hydroxide wrote: Robert wrote: A liberal is one who has little or no faith in liberty.

If you say so, it must be true.

"For the Snark's a peculiar creature, that won't
 Be caught in a commonplace way.
 Do all that you know, and try all that you don't:
 Not a chance must be wasted to-day!

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"Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
That alone should encourage the crew.
Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
What I tell you three times is true."


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name one left wing program in the last 40 years that is voluntary.

Why is liberty advances when tax rates are increased?

Where is freedom to be found in the desire to nationalise health care, or the energy industry? 

 

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Robert wrote: BOB

name one left wing program in the last 40 years that is voluntary.

Why is liberty advances when tax rates are increased?

Where is freedom to be found in the desire to nationalise health care, or the energy industry?

I wasn't disputing the correctness of the statement. I was commenting on the attempt to produce a truism by repetitiveness.

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Bob Of Burleson wrote: I wasn't disputing the correctness of the statement. I was commenting on the attempt to produce a truism by repetitiveness.


That's one of the prime tenets of the dim party.

If we say it often enough, people will believe it's true.



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Ed in East Texas wrote: hydrogen hydroxide wrote: Ed in East Texas wrote: A liberal looks to government as the solution to most problems. He has no faith that the American people are capable of taking care of themselves and their family and their country.

Since it's the people who choose the government, it's inconsistent to say that the same people have no faith in those. Or are you suggesting that it's the liberals who appoint the government?

Pleez. Of course, you might be right. I'm not sure McCain has much faith in himself.

Of course, we're a republic, people don't really choose the government, they choose the people who run the government. Those elected persons who run the government and thus appoint those bureaucrats who "assist" in running the government are the ones with power to manage our lives. It's the "frog in boiling water scenario" where the people who choose aren't aware of the growth of government and its intrusion into our individual liberties until at such time of an occurrence that changes the mind-set of the average person.


Oh Jeez! Picky, picky, picky!

Of course you're right.  But the point I was making is still made.

Or are you going to explain to me how I wasn't part of the picking of Hillary?



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Robert wrote: Illogical

 

Idiot Quote of the Century


 'My friends, we live in the greatest


nation in the history of the world.


I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.'


 - Barack Obama



Unless our greatest nation in the history of the world has suddenly become perfect; there's NOTHING illogical about the statement. Nothing at all.

However, it IS an astonishingly idiotic quote.



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