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Stoli
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41st Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:42 pm | |
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dublusk wrote: Namby Pambys!
Cupcakes! lol!!!!
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LEB
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42nd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:46 pm | |
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GregfromBurbank wrote: LEB wrote:
I teach my kids to respect everyone, not just their elders. You don't have to like someone but respect the fact that those toes you step on today might be connected to the butt you'll have to kiss 10-20 years from now. 
Oh Brother!!!!
one of my favorite movies:
Loosely based on Homer's 'Odyssey' the movie deals with the grotesque adventures of Everett Ulysses McGill and his companions Delmar and Pete in 1930s Mississipi. Sprung from a chain gang and trying to reach Everetts home to recover the buried loot of a bank heist they are confronted by a series of strange characters. Among them sirens, a cyclops, bankrobber George 'Babyface' Nelson (very annoyed by that nickname), a campaigning Governor, his opponent, a KKK lynch mob, and a blind prophet, who warns the trio that "the treasure you seek shall not be the treasure you find."
Good cast, too: George Clooney, Tim Blake Nelson, John Tuturro & John Goodman!
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david In Oak Cliff
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43rd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:55 pm | |
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My Parents didn't think LICKS at school worked for me....I lived in fear of the call HOME....
My Mom The NURSE worked nights.....Dad was always away...
Taking licks at school would have been quick and merciful. And no I didn't get hit at home That would have been to easy...
There are times I think they Modeled the Nurse from One Flew Over the COO COOs Nest after her.
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Stoli
Orphie is a SBWLLHCE!!!!!!!!
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44th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 07:09 pm | |
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david In Oak Cliff wrote: My Parents didn't think LICKS at school worked for me....I lived in fear of the call HOME....
My Mom The NURSE worked nights.....Dad was always away...
Taking licks at school would have been quick and merciful. And no I didn't get hit at home That would have been to easy...
There are times I think they Modeled the Nurse from One Flew Over the COO COOs Nest after her.
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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rusty
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45th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:14 pm | |
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I'm not necessarily against corporal punishment in schools, but when I was in school we got hit for stupid things. It got out of hand and when it did, it got taken away.
I remember when I was in 7th grade me and a couple other guys got 3 licks each for being a day late turning in our correction paper for some kind of test. The thing I remember most, to this day, is not that it taught me a lesson on being punctual with my school work, it's how damn stupid it was to get 3 licks with a paddle for missing an assignment. That type of scenario was not uncommon. When admin loses all common sense, the paddle needs to come out of their hands.
I'm all for the schools, and all for discipline, but if something like that had happened to my son while he was in school, they would've had to take me on too.
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Stoli
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46th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:16 pm | |
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rusty wrote: I'm not necessarily against corporal punishment in schools, but when I was in school we got hit for stupid things. It got out of hand and when it did, it got taken away.
I remember when I was in 7th grade me and a couple other guys got 3 licks each for being a day late turning in our correction paper for some kind of test. The thing I remember most, to this day, is not that it taught me a lesson on being punctual with my school work, it's how damn stupid it was to get 3 licks with a paddle for missing an assignment. That type of scenario was not uncommon. When admin loses all common sense, the paddle needs to come out of their hands.
I'm all for the schools, and all for discipline, but if something like that had happened to my son while he was in school, they would've had to take me on too.
You ever turn your assignments late again? LOL!!!
J/K...that is over the top IMHO.
Bet you never turned it in late again though.
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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TexasCajun
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47th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:18 pm | |
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How about this approach. We allow corporal punishment in schools but when an educator or member of the school administration has a brain fart and paddles a student for a stupid reason...or knowingly violates district policy because they want to be an a$$ that day...that parent gets to administer 10 whacks to them in front of the entire student body?
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CactusHopper
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48th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:18 pm | |
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When I was in the 8th grade I got in a fight with a kid. A teacher broke us up and we got swats at the office.
It taught me to fight off campus. LOL
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CactusHopper
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49th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:19 pm | |
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TexasCajun wrote: How about this approach. We allow corporal punishment in schools but when an educator or member of the school administration has a brain fart and paddles a student for a stupid reason...or knowingly violates district policy because they want to be an a$$ that day...that parent gets to administer 10 whacks to them in front of the entire student body?
I'm for it as long as we can kick basketball refs in the nuts who make stupid calls.
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Stoli
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50th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:24 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: TexasCajun wrote: How about this approach. We allow corporal punishment in schools but when an educator or member of the school administration has a brain fart and paddles a student for a stupid reason...or knowingly violates district policy because they want to be an a$$ that day...that parent gets to administer 10 whacks to them in front of the entire student body?
I'm for it as long as we can kick basketball refs in the nuts who make stupid calls.
Damit Hopper!!!
Freaking Dr. Pepper everywhere
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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The Neches River Rat
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51st Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:27 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: Aspiring Lush wrote: I am not anti-spanking but I believe it should be used sparingly. If I have to smack William's hand so he will not reach into the dogs mouth then so be it. Having said that...NO-ONE better spank my kid but me. If I need to come down to school and swat his butt mid-day I will. But if I ever catch someone whacking my kid they better run and Sam better get the bail money ready. This is one of the reasons public schools have gone to s***.
People want the school to teach with handcuffs.
Let it be known...that this is the first time (that I can remember) that I have actually agreed with something that you have stated. 
People want discipline in the schools, but when it is there kid, then its the "by gawd don't touch my kid or I will sue you" attitude. Will parents be willing to drop everything and immediatley respond to the school when little Junior needs to get his ass whupped? Or will they wait until its convient for them (the parents)? Most likely the parents will disagree and argue with the teacher if discipline is needed....
Trust me, parents with that type of attitude, need to spend a week in a 4th grade class and see how their sweet little innocent kids are acting TOWARD the teacher and each other, after mom and dad drop them off in the AM. After a week, you will be in full favor of school administered ass whuppings.
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Stoli
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52nd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:39 pm | |
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The Neches River Rat wrote: CactusHopper wrote: Aspiring Lush wrote: I am not anti-spanking but I believe it should be used sparingly. If I have to smack William's hand so he will not reach into the dogs mouth then so be it. Having said that...NO-ONE better spank my kid but me. If I need to come down to school and swat his butt mid-day I will. But if I ever catch someone whacking my kid they better run and Sam better get the bail money ready. This is one of the reasons public schools have gone to s***.
People want the school to teach with handcuffs.
Let it be known...that this is the first time (that I can remember) that I have actually agreed with something that you have stated.
People want discipline in the schools, but when it is there kid, then its the "by gawd don't touch my kid or I will sue you" attitude. Will parents be willing to drop everything and immediatley respond to the school when little Junior needs to get his ass whupped? Or will they wait until its convient for them (the parents)? Most likely the parents will disagree and argue with the teacher if discipline is needed....
Trust me, parents with that type of attitude, need to spend a week in a 4th grade class and see how their sweet little innocent kids are acting TOWARD the teacher and each other, after mom and dad drop them off in the AM. After a week, you will be in full favor of school administered ass whuppings.
+1 to what you said except for agreeing with Hopper.....pains me to say it by I agree with him more then I care to admit on stuff like this...other stuff he is out of his mind.
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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TexasCajun
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53rd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:44 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: TexasCajun wrote: How about this approach. We allow corporal punishment in schools but when an educator or member of the school administration has a brain fart and paddles a student for a stupid reason...or knowingly violates district policy because they want to be an a$$ that day...that parent gets to administer 10 whacks to them in front of the entire student body?
I'm for it as long as we can kick basketball refs in the nuts who make stupid calls.
Sure...as long as when I show you in the rules where you really are a blithering idiot I can kick you in the nuts twice...wonder if PETA would come after me for depriving sheep of pleasure or give me an award for coming to their aid?
See, I KNOW the rules...you probably don't...and many things you think are in the rules aren't.
Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:49 pm by TexasCajun
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Stoli
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54th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:49 pm | |
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TexasCajun wrote: CactusHopper wrote: TexasCajun wrote: How about this approach. We allow corporal punishment in schools but when an educator or member of the school administration has a brain fart and paddles a student for a stupid reason...or knowingly violates district policy because they want to be an a$$ that day...that parent gets to administer 10 whacks to them in front of the entire student body?
I'm for it as long as we can kick basketball refs in the nuts who make stupid calls.
Sure...as long as if I can show you in the rules where you really are a blithering idiot I can kick you in the nuts twice...wonder if PETA would come after me for depriving sheep of pleasure or give me an award for coming to their aid?
See, I KNOW the rules...you probably don't...and many things you think are in the rules aren't.
Kinda like swats are part of a schools rule book, and if your kid breaks the rules he/she is going to get popped, because they broke the rules and deserve it.
I have friends that are teachers and I honestly don't know how they do it.
Funny how I have never met a ref that has cost a team a game from a lousy call.
Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:50 pm by Stoli
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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jody
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55th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:51 pm | |
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TexasCajun wrote: Parents should be in the business of parenting. Schools are in the business of educating...not teaching morals, being role models, etc..
We're ALL in the business of teaching morals, being role models, etc. We do it by our lives and behavior, every day. Teachers by definition are authority figures. Their actions carry weight - more than their words.
If any of my children need swats, the school doesn't need to call me first - but they better have a good explanation handy when I ask why it was necessary. I can't think of an example in my son's lives where I didn't back the school up. My rule is you obey their rules. Break their rules and you'll face me, too. And if somehow they got punished unfairly, then they learned a pretty important lesson there too. Sometimes things happen that just aren't right.
And if memory serves, getting licks was something of a point of pride when we were in school. Who hit hardest, how many, and that you could take it might have been a deterrent going in...but there was bragging coming out.
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TexasCajun
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56th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:52 pm | |
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Stoli wrote: Funny how I have never met a ref that has cost a team a game from a lousy call.
That's because we never miss a shot, never commit a turnover and never commit a foul.
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Stoli
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57th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 08:55 pm | |
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TexasCajun wrote: Stoli wrote: Funny how I have never met a ref that has cost a team a game from a lousy call.
That's because we never miss a shot, never commit a turnover and never commit a foul.
I played for a long time, seen by fair share of horrible refs that cost teams games.
My favorites were the guys in college that called the rec games that had never actually played the game in their lives, but had a rule book cramped up their butt.....they were always the worst.
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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TexasCajun
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58th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 09:03 pm | |
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jody wrote: TexasCajun wrote: Parents should be in the business of parenting. Schools are in the business of educating...not teaching morals, being role models, etc..
We're ALL in the business of teaching morals, being role models, etc. We do it by our lives and behavior, every day. Teachers by definition are authority figures. Their actions carry weight - more than their words.
If any of my children need swats, the school doesn't need to call me first - but they better have a good explanation handy when I ask why it was necessary. I can't think of an example in my son's lives where I didn't back the school up. My rule is you obey their rules. Break their rules and you'll face me, too. And if somehow they got punished unfairly, then they learned a pretty important lesson there too. Sometimes things happen that just aren't right.
And if memory serves, getting licks was something of a point of pride when we were in school. Who hit hardest, how many, and that you could take it might have been a deterrent going in...but there was bragging coming out.
I can think of two occassions where I didn't back up the school...and both times the teacher was in direct violation of district policy (same policy by the way). The second time it happened she and I had a very short and direct phone call that included the principal and they were both told (after the principal admitted he had told all the teachers about the policy) that if it happened again the three of us would be sitting in front of the district superintendant when we had the conversation.
My kids knew I expected them to follow the rules and, if they chose to break a rule, take their punishement like an adult. However, I also fully expected the teachers and administration to also follow the rules. If they chose not to do so then they could expect me to come after them to get the situation corrected. If they want to be a role model...lead by example and act professionally.
Besides...their definition of "right" and "wrong" may be dramatically different from what we believe. All they have to do is be professional, respectful of others, properly prepared to deliver the material and enforce the rules that are in place equitably.
How would it go over if you grabbed a subordinate at work and gave them a couple of whacks on the butt for doing something wrong? My guess is you would be on the street before the end of the day and your boss would be on the phone with the attorneys trying to avoid a massive law suit.
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59th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 09:07 pm | |
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I don't understood why people have to resort to violence when dealing with kids.
Never resorted to violence with my children and they aren't using violence on their children.
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Stoli
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60th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 09:12 pm | |
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TexasCajun wrote: jody wrote: TexasCajun wrote: Parents should be in the business of parenting. Schools are in the business of educating...not teaching morals, being role models, etc..
We're ALL in the business of teaching morals, being role models, etc. We do it by our lives and behavior, every day. Teachers by definition are authority figures. Their actions carry weight - more than their words.
If any of my children need swats, the school doesn't need to call me first - but they better have a good explanation handy when I ask why it was necessary. I can't think of an example in my son's lives where I didn't back the school up. My rule is you obey their rules. Break their rules and you'll face me, too. And if somehow they got punished unfairly, then they learned a pretty important lesson there too. Sometimes things happen that just aren't right.
And if memory serves, getting licks was something of a point of pride when we were in school. Who hit hardest, how many, and that you could take it might have been a deterrent going in...but there was bragging coming out.
I can think of two occassions where I didn't back up the school...and both times the teacher was in direct violation of district policy (same policy by the way). The second time it happened she and I had a very short and direct phone call that included the principal and they were both told (after the principal admitted he had told all the teachers about the policy) that if it happened again the three of us would be sitting in front of the district superintendant when we had the conversation.
My kids knew I expected them to follow the rules and, if they chose to break a rule, take their punishement like an adult. However, I also fully expected the teachers and administration to also follow the rules. If they chose not to do so then they could expect me to come after them to get the situation corrected. If they want to be a role model...lead by example and act professionally.
Besides...their definition of "right" and "wrong" may be dramatically different from what we believe. All they have to do is be professional, respectful of others, properly prepared to deliver the material and enforce the rules that are in place equitably.
How would it go over if you grabbed a subordinate at work and gave them a couple of whacks on the butt for doing something wrong? My guess is you would be on the street before the end of the day and your boss would be on the phone with the attorneys trying to avoid a massive law suit.
Then home school them........if they don't follow the rules of the school the deserve to be punished. Sure there are times when teachers have over stepped the bounds but I am sure the times the haven't and give someone licks is by far and away a much bigger number.
Work and school are apples and oranges especially in Texas.........You work for me and "F" up two many time, I will just fire you plain and simple, greatness of a right to work state. Kicking a kid out of school is a little more complicated then that.
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I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
Mark Twain
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Winston Churchill
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