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CactusHopper
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1st Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:04 pm | |
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BAGHDAD - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Thursday that U.S. and Iraqi officials agree that timetables should be set for a U.S. troop withdrawal, but conceded that nailing down a broader pact on future relations is difficult.
Appearing together at a news conference, Rice and Zebari also mutually asserted that a final agreement between Washington and Baghdad on a a broad document spelling out the nature of any future U.S. troop presence and Washington-Baghdad relations is close to fruition, but not yet complete.
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Kent
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2nd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:08 pm | |
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| this is not a timetable for complete withdrawal like Pelosi and Obama want. This is a timetable for reductions.... we will ALWAYS have a military presence there.
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dublusk
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3rd Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:16 pm | |
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Kent wrote: this is not a timetable for complete withdrawal like Pelosi and Obama want. This is a timetable for reductions.... we will ALWAYS have a military presence there.
Why? We didn't have one ther e before. Why do we need one now?
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GregfromBurbank
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4th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:17 pm | |
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Kent wrote: this is not a timetable for complete withdrawal like Pelosi and Obama want. This is a timetable for reductions....
..and after securing victory..which is close at hand.
..no thanks to Democrats..still hoping for a loss.
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CactusHopper
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5th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:18 pm | |
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| Please define victory..........this ought to be good.
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GregfromBurbank
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6th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:18 pm | |
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dublusk wrote: Kent wrote: this is not a timetable for complete withdrawal like Pelosi and Obama want. This is a timetable for reductions.... we will ALWAYS have a military presence there.
Why? We didn't have one ther e before. Why do we need one now?
We didn't have one there before because they had a hostile government.
We may not NEED one when this is all over..but having one will be a great advantage.
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Darth Penguin
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7th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:22 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: Please define victory..........this ought to be good.
How about the fact that the media isn't covering Iraq anymore?
I think that's a pretty good indication...
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GregfromBurbank
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8th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:24 pm | |
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Darth Penguin wrote: CactusHopper wrote: Please define victory..........this ought to be good.
How about the fact that the media isn't covering Iraq anymore?
I think that's a pretty good indication...
It is.
So is the fact that they and many Democrats have now put their hopes in our defeat in Afghanistan.
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CactusHopper
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9th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:25 pm | |
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| I didn't think so.........
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Scarlett~NC
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10th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:26 pm | |
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the dems big thing now is not Iraq ..but attacking John McCain for having several houses ..it's a big sin to be rich (if you are not a democrat)
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CactusHopper
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11th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:32 pm | |
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Scarlett~NC wrote: the dems big thing now is not Iraq ..but attacking John McCain for having several houses ..it's a big sin to be rich (if you are not a democrat)
What I saw was that he was too stupid to know how many houses he has.
I know Pubs hate this........................they told me last election how a presidential candidate marrying a rich woman was bad.........................right after they told me that cheating on one's wife was bad.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya can't make this s*** up!
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dublusk
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12th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:35 pm | |
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GregfromBurbank wrote: dublusk wrote: Kent wrote: this is not a timetable for complete withdrawal like Pelosi and Obama want. This is a timetable for reductions.... we will ALWAYS have a military presence there.
Why? We didn't have one ther e before. Why do we need one now?
We didn't have one there before because they had a hostile government.
We may not NEED one when this is all over..but having one will be a great advantage.
Having one will be expensive, unnecessary, a target for terrorists and a thorn in the side of moderate Muslims in the area. We need to get out!
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Robert
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13th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:38 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: Please define victory..........this ought to be good.
The same way you define victory in the city of Dallas in its efforts to control crime.Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:41 pm by Robert
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CactusHopper
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14th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:39 pm | |
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| Oh............never happen.
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Robert
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15th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:42 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: Oh............never happen.
Exactly, so does that mean we should not fight crime?
When people want to be terrorist, your never going to completly stop them. Unless you bring out the H-Bombs.
Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:44 pm by Robert
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CactusHopper
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16th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:44 pm | |
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| So victory will never happen.......does that mean we should quit throwing the silly word victory around?
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Zephyr
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17th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:44 pm | |
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| Irregular? Constipated? No s**t? Try the new soft drink, "Pelosi". It'll fix the problem.
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Robert
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18th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:48 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: So victory will never happen.......does that mean we should quit throwing the silly word victory around?
Depends on how you define victory. If you define victory in Dallas, as never having any more crime, it will never happen.
We instead define victory by the direction the crime rate is going. If it is going down, we say, we be doin' good.
As long as people want to be criminals, there will be a crime rate.
We are no where near convencing all the towel heads that Jews have a right to exist, or that Allah does not want them to turn the rest of the world into their slaves, and we never will be.
Ack im a jerk still opens his speaches with a prayer for world wide destruction.
Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:50 pm by Robert
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CactusHopper
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19th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:49 pm | |
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| So at what point does victory happen?
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Robert
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20th Post Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:52 pm | |
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CactusHopper wrote: So at what point does victory happen?
It doesn't ever happen. It is the wrong word to use in this battle because it implies something akin to what we achieved in past wars, where the enemy sat down at the table and said, ok we give up, ain't gonna be no more fighting.
That is not going to happen this time around.
Way to many Arabs have been taught from the cradle that it is their destiny to rule the world for Allah. That Jews were created by Lucifer, and Allah will not be happy untill they are all dead.
This is a struggle that will last another few hundred years. All you can do is control it. It is gong to be part of life for as far as the eye can see.
There is one way to stop it, and that would be for virtually every man woman and child in every nation that exists to stand firm against it, instead of fighting among themselves. That ain't gonna happen either, there is to much dysfunction in the world.
It would be my guess, that God is the only one who is going to stop it, because man is to stupid to. It provides us with entertainment. People are not happy unless there is someone around to beat over the head. It make them feel powerful.
Everyone needs an enemy these days, and for some the enemy is the bitter middle class who cling to their guns and Bible, and go to work every day. With out an enemy it hard to be a victim. If your a victim you need an enemy to bash over the head, so you can be powerful. For some like Ayers, that transulates into "kill your parents". We make people like that University Professors so they can fill our kids heads with same.
It not just Arabs that teach destruction.
It is not just the terrorist that have their head screwed on backwards, it's 1/2 the people in the world, which is why were not going to stand together and put a stop to terrorism. There will be no victory.
We have not even correctly identified the enemy.
Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 05:26 pm by Robert
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